tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8845240845325702264.post2913539538123350375..comments2023-10-15T08:44:46.842-04:00Comments on The People's Republic of Pittsburgh: It's Official: Ravenstahl is a Frightened Little WussRichmond K. Turnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05352144240244956283noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8845240845325702264.post-84072889824191604542007-03-20T23:41:00.000-04:002007-03-20T23:41:00.000-04:00Democracy for Pittsburgh- The League of Young Vote...Democracy for Pittsburgh<BR/>- The League of Young Voters<BR/>- The Getrude Stein Club<BR/>- The Steel-City Stonewall Democrats<BR/>- Progress Pittsburgh<BR/>- Americans for Demoractic Action<BR/><BR/>I wouldn't calla ny of those events debates. Those sound like Pro Peduto groups to me...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8845240845325702264.post-68469210671314404042007-03-20T23:39:00.000-04:002007-03-20T23:39:00.000-04:00Maria:He's Bush? That's crazy.Maria:<BR/><BR/>He's Bush? That's crazy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8845240845325702264.post-32521734565078493162007-03-20T22:11:00.000-04:002007-03-20T22:11:00.000-04:00The progressive groups holding a debate that doesn...The progressive groups holding a debate that doesn't get anything but progressive candidates is more like a pep rally, not a debate.<BR/><BR/>I think it is great that they went ahead. I think it is great that they built the organization to host such an event. No doubt. <BR/><BR/>But, they are not the same as WQED nor KQV. <BR/><BR/>I'm looking for a major institution to break the long jam. Then Mark Rauterkushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17157914569686528007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8845240845325702264.post-2115497338357348162007-03-20T16:18:00.000-04:002007-03-20T16:18:00.000-04:00The following six progressive groups went on with ...The following six progressive groups went on with their forum despite Luke pulling out at the last minute:<BR/><BR/>- Democracy for Pittsburgh<BR/>- The League of Young Voters<BR/>- The Getrude Stein Club<BR/>- The Steel-City Stonewall Democrats<BR/>- Progress Pittsburgh<BR/>- Americans for Demoractic Action<BR/><BR/>As documented <A HREF="http://2politicaljunkies.blogspot.com/2007/02/Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10439330154875628083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8845240845325702264.post-14164059869868903912007-03-20T13:05:00.000-04:002007-03-20T13:05:00.000-04:00Luke won't be missing from a debate until a host g...Luke won't be missing from a debate until a host goes forward with the event without him. The host has to have courage and plug ahead.<BR/><BR/>It doesn't take two to tango in this setting. More are necessary, but none beyond the host/venue are critical.<BR/><BR/>Candidate A, Candidate B, Ref/moderator, Venue, Audience -- and perhaps candidate Z.<BR/><BR/>The institutional venue/host is the most Mark Rauterkushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17157914569686528007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8845240845325702264.post-15933170119542380482007-03-20T11:13:00.000-04:002007-03-20T11:13:00.000-04:00I know that the Pitt College Democrats are trying ...I know that the Pitt College Democrats are trying to do a debate and that a certain KDKA personality said he would moderate. <BR/><BR/>It is my understanding that the only ingredient missing is a dash of Luke.Jason Phillipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07261201644162212933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8845240845325702264.post-10285560549159127122007-03-20T09:51:00.000-04:002007-03-20T09:51:00.000-04:00Seriously Mark, regardless of how any of us feels ...Seriously Mark, regardless of how any of us feels about Tom Murphy, the man was not a vacuous frat boy - we at least had an opportunity to make judgments of his opinions because he actually had his own opinions.<BR/><BR/>Luke knows that the longer Peduto goes w/o real exposure, the more his Luke's apathetic base will grow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8845240845325702264.post-83849477116905288842007-03-20T09:22:00.000-04:002007-03-20T09:22:00.000-04:00Not fair to pressure the organizations that you me...Not fair to pressure the organizations that you mention. From what I hear, many such organizations have been chasing Luke around since January trying to schedule forums/debates.<BR/><BR/>Luke is apparently too busy partying in NYC and lying about it to accommodate anyone else's schedule.Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10439330154875628083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8845240845325702264.post-73607616843406004332007-03-20T09:17:00.000-04:002007-03-20T09:17:00.000-04:00Name calling (wuss)?? I'd have thought that was b...Name calling (wuss)?? I'd have thought that was beneath you, Admiral. I'm disappointed you've stooped to that level.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8845240845325702264.post-69179432232792949542007-03-20T07:54:00.000-04:002007-03-20T07:54:00.000-04:00Don't cry, it'll be ok. Jeez, my 2-year old niece...Don't cry, it'll be ok. Jeez, my 2-year old niece whines more than you.<BR/><BR/>Debates will inevitably happen, but they aren't as important as you seem to think they are. How much can you really learn about the candidates when they are giving you 30-second sound-bite responses. The truth is, neither of these candidates is a policy heavy-weight. <BR/><BR/>And as an added bonus, the fewer Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8845240845325702264.post-14485344510967597002007-03-20T07:14:00.000-04:002007-03-20T07:14:00.000-04:00Luke isn't Bush as much as he is Tom Murphy. In th...Luke isn't Bush as much as he is Tom Murphy. <BR/><BR/>In the 2001 general election, Tom Murphy held ONE debate. It was on Sunday Night before the election that Tuesday. Tom Murphy won that election. But, it was the last one he would ever win. <BR/><BR/>Tom Murphy wrote the standard that many of the Dems around here subscribe to.<BR/><BR/>Furthermore, the thing to do is put the pressure on the Mark Rauterkushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17157914569686528007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8845240845325702264.post-63731246157337752192007-03-20T02:14:00.000-04:002007-03-20T02:14:00.000-04:00Several weeks ago, Bill Peduto jokingly said to a ...Several weeks ago, Bill Peduto jokingly said to a group of Committee members that he was going to get a lifesize cut out of Luke to accompany him to all events.It was a great idea.Bill its time to bring out the cardboard Luke!!Smittyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07139334681820382879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8845240845325702264.post-28106541558107166182007-03-20T01:11:00.000-04:002007-03-20T01:11:00.000-04:00According to the Trib (http://www.pittsburghlive.c...According to the Trib (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/cityregion/s_498601.html) he is too busy jetting off to NYC for a midnight snack to prepare for a debate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8845240845325702264.post-5017001563186784252007-03-19T23:57:00.000-04:002007-03-19T23:57:00.000-04:00Let's just say it: He's Bush.Hell, more than being...Let's just say it: <BR/>He's Bush.<BR/><BR/>Hell, more than being like Bush, reality is if this city had a viable Republican Party, he'd be a Republican (And not the decent Rockefeller kind).Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10439330154875628083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8845240845325702264.post-42670673657534440082007-03-19T23:43:00.000-04:002007-03-19T23:43:00.000-04:00I agree whole-heartedly with your ultimate points,...I agree whole-heartedly with your ultimate points, Admiral. Both Luke and the MSM (PG, in particular) have done the citizens of Pittsburgh a tremendous disservice by failing to respect the democratic process. I'm embarassed and appalled by both.<BR/><BR/>However, I disagree with the conclusion that Luke will prove himself worthy of a thorough debate. He won't embarass himself, and he will "Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8845240845325702264.post-24748936197289941392007-03-19T22:51:00.000-04:002007-03-19T22:51:00.000-04:00At March 19, Matt, you (y’all, the Mayor’s campaig...At March 19, Matt, you (y’all, the Mayor’s campaign) should be able to give us a firm date for debate(s). Of course, we have no choice but to wait and see. But I wouldn't think that time is on your side. All of the issues mentioned on this blog can be dredged up, and if no progress has been made on them, that will be apparent.<BR/>Of course, a big juicy ethical violation investigation would make EdHeathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09109361235271107574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8845240845325702264.post-53265442834267480972007-03-19T22:40:00.000-04:002007-03-19T22:40:00.000-04:00The debates will happen. Just wait & see.Even my ...The debates will happen. Just wait & see.<BR/><BR/>Even my organization will be planning our "meet the candidates" night that we have every year. Both candidates will be invited to attend. I'll even invite all of you to come out and say hello.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8845240845325702264.post-53243064894195682442007-03-19T22:38:00.000-04:002007-03-19T22:38:00.000-04:00The thing is, Bram, that I agree with that sentime...The thing is, Bram, that I agree with that sentiment to a certain extent. I don't think I would go as far as saying that his debates with Peduto would reveal a "great strength", but he would probably hold his ground pretty darn well. So why does he continue avoid debating?<BR/><BR/>My own bet is that his campaign sees no real benefit in doing them. They probably feel that he is so far out in Richmond K. Turnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05352144240244956283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8845240845325702264.post-83568925757011056742007-03-19T22:20:00.000-04:002007-03-19T22:20:00.000-04:00At a Ravenstahl event I attended, a couple of his ...At a Ravenstahl event I attended, a couple of his mid-level staffers warned that Luke's great strength will be his debates -- he's smart, eloquent, thinks on his feet, and has a good grasp of the issues. They painted a very impressive portrait of him as a debater, and assured me "four or five" debates will be forthcoming.Bram Reichbaumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05620172942925293407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8845240845325702264.post-64163785813788776052007-03-19T20:35:00.000-04:002007-03-19T20:35:00.000-04:00Yep. That about sums it up. I think it's time for ...Yep. That about sums it up. <BR/><BR/>I think it's time for some Matt H spin now...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com